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Yes.

Interest payments on the federal debt will be $870 billion in 2024, exceeding $822 billion spent on defense, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office projected in February 2024.

Interest payments have never exceeded defense outlays, at least dating back to 1940, said the nonprofit Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.

The $870 billion in interest payments is 32% higher than the $659 billion in 2023. The increases exceeded 35% in each of the previous two years.

Through December, cumulative federal debt was $34 trillion.

The annual deficit in fiscal 2020 under Donald Trump and during COVID was $3.1 trillion — three times higher than the previous year. In the next three years under President Joe Biden, the deficits were $2.8 trillion, $1.4 trillion and $1.7 trillion.

The interest payments-defense claim was made Feb. 21, 2024, by Republican Eric Hovde, who is challenging U.S. Sen. Tammy Baldwin, D-Wis., in the 2024 election.

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Sources

Congressional Budget Office: The Budget and Economic Outlook: 2024 to 2034

Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget: Do We Spend More On Interest Than Defense?-2024-02-20

treasury.gov: U.S. Treasury Fiscal Data

Midwest Communications: Guest: Eric Hovde – The Meg Ellefson Show 022124

FRED (Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis): Federal Reserve Bank Of St. Louis

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Tom Kertscher joined as a Wisconsin Watch fact checker in January 2023 and contributes to our collaboration with the The Gigafact Project to fight misinformation online. Kertscher is a former longtime newspaper reporter, including at the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, who has worked as a self-employed journalist since 2019. His gigs include contributing writer for Milwaukee Magazine and sports freelancer for The Associated Press.