Sijhawm Nyeem Ntawv: 8 feeb

Qhov no yog qhov thib ob ntu ntawm Qhib thiab kaw, xya-ntu podcast thiab online series tshawb xyuas lub zog tsis zoo ntawm cov neeg foob. Saib tag nrho qhov project ntawm wpr.org/openandshut

Kauj Ruam 2 - Tus Tub Golden

Nco ntsoov qhov pib ntawm COVID-19 kis thoob qhov txhia chaw? Txoj kev rov qab los rau xyoo 2020, thaum twg txhua tus tau khaws cov tshuaj ntxuav tes thiab ntawv tso quav? Lub caij nplooj ntoo hlav ntawd, Jerry Lingnofski tau ua haujlwm ua tus thawj coj muag ntawm lub khw muag phom. Nws muaj kev yuav-ib-tau-ib-dawb tshwj xeeb - phom nrog ib daim ntawv tsis muaj ntaub qhwv rau ntawm lub thoob. 

Tab sis Lingnofski tsis yog ib txwm nyob hauv kev muag phom. Nws tau ua haujlwm rau tub ceev xwm hauv Wisconsin's Fox Valley. 

Lingnofski muaj ib zaj dab neeg tseem ceeb los qhia - ib qho uas nws tau hais nyob rau hauv kev cog lus hauv lub tsev hais plaub tsis pub leej twg paub hauv 2005. Tab sis ua ntej nws pom zoo rau kev xam phaj, Lingnofski xav kom Wisconsin Watch reporter ua qee "ua haujlwm hauv tsev" - los ntawm kev tau txais ib tug kws txiav txim plaub ntug. ib tug secrecy txiav txim ntawm transcript ntawm nws zaj lus tim khawv.

Jerry Lingnofki, tus kws tshawb nrhiav so haujlwm rau Lub Nroog Menasha Tub Ceev Xwm, hais tias Winnebago County District Tus Kws Lij Choj Joe Paulus thiab Menasha tub ceev xwm Steve Malchow tau hais kom nws pw ntawm qhov muag txog kev tshawb nrhiav kev tua neeg xyoo 1991. Lingnofski tsis kam. Lingnofki thiab nws tus dev K-9 Niko tau nthuav tawm hauv xyoo 1990s ntawm cov ntawv luam tawm hauv Wisconsin's Fox Valley los qhia txog tub ceev xwm. (Courtesy ntawm Jerry Lingnofski)

Nws ua haujlwm. Thiab tam sim no Lingnofski, tus kws tshawb nrhiav so haujlwm rau Lub Nroog Menasha Tub Ceev Xwm, tau npaj los tham txog case uas tau muab nws tso tseg nrog tus qub Winnebago County District Tus Kws Lij Choj Joe Paulus.

Nws yuav tsum ua nrog qhov txaus ntshai xyoo 1991 tua tus ntxhais 2 xyoos los ntawm nws tus neeg nyob ze, Kelly Coon, ib rooj plaub raug foob los ntawm Paulus thiab tom qab ntawd-Tus Lwm Thawj Coj Tus Kws Lij Choj Vince Biskupic.

"Amy Breyer yog ib tug ntxhais zoo nkauj, nyob nrog nws niam nws txiv ntawm lub tsev txawb chaw ua si ... Kelly Coon yog ib qho kev kawm uas peb tau cuam tshuam nrog rau ntau yam," Lingnofski nco qab. "Thiab ib hmo nws tau nyiag tus menyuam yaus, ua phem rau nws thiab tua nws."

Raws li Lingnofski cov lus tim khawv, Paulus thiab ib tug tub ceev xwm qib siab ntawm Menasha tub ceev xwm, Steve Malchow, tau hais kom nws dag - hauv txoj kev txawv txawv - txog nws txoj kev tshawb nrhiav thaj chaw uas Amy lub cev tau pom.

Lingnofski hais tias ob tug txiv neej xav kom nws hais tias nws pom tus menyuam daim pawj thaum dov hauv av, tsis yog qhov chaw uas nws tau pom tiag tiag, hauv qee cov ntoo uas khawb nws txhais tes. 

Cov lus dag tsis muaj txiaj ntsig rau Lingnofski, tab sis nws hais tias Paulus thiab Malchow tau hais. Malchow liam tias nws tsis yog "pab pawg neeg ua si," nws hais, hais tias nws yuav tsum ua raws li Paulus xav tau - lossis raug txwv los ntawm kev ua haujlwm hauv Coon qhov kev sim siab. 

Lingnofski tsis kam. Thiab nws yeej tsis tau ua tim khawv hauv rooj plaub Coon. 

Tab sis nws ua rau nws muaj kev xav ntev ntev ntawm Paulus ua tus kws lij choj - ib tug txiv neej tom qab mus rau hauv tsev lojcuj vim nws tsis ncaj ncees. 

Malchow tau so haujlwm los ntawm Outagamie County District Tus Kws Lij Choj Lub Chaw Haujlwm, qhov chaw uas nws yog tus kws tshawb fawb rau Biskupic. Malchow thiab Paulus tsis teb rau kev siv zog mus cuag lawv hauv xov tooj, email thiab ntawv pov thawj nrog cov npe ntawm cov lus nug. 

Paulus yog 'Golden Boy'

Ua ntej nws poob rau xyoo 2004, Paulus tau paub tias yog ib tus kws lij choj hauv cheeb tsam uas nyuaj rau them nyiaj nrog rau kev foob rau kev foob xov xwm. 

"Rau lub sijhawm ntev tshaj plaws, Joe tau raug hu ua Tus Tub Golden," hais tias Jerry Burke, tus kws tshaj xov xwm TV ntev ntev rau WBAY so haujlwm. “Nws tuaj yeem ua tsis raug. .... Me tub, saib cov kev ntseeg uas nws tau txais. Yog lawm, ua ntej peb paub qee qhov crap nws tau rub hauv qab rooj. "

Jerry Burke yog tus kws tshaj xov xwm so haujlwm uas tau ua haujlwm ntawm WBAY hauv Green Bay, Wis. Burke hais tias nws tsis nyiam Paulus tab sis hais txog Biskupic: "Vince muaj kev coj ncaj ncees." Burke tau yees duab ntawm nws lub tsev hauv Oshkosh, Wis., xyoo 2020. (Dee J. Hall / Wisconsin Saib)

Paulus tau los ua tus kws lij choj hauv nroog Winnebago hauv 1988 thaum nws muaj 29 xyoo xwb. Cov tub ntxhais hluas DA ntiav ib tug kws pab hluas, Biskupic, uas yog tshiab tawm ntawm tsev kawm ntawv kev cai lij choj. 

"Joe yog nws (Biskupic's) tus cob qhia," nco qab Mike Balskus, tus kws lij choj qub qub Fox Valley uas tau tshawb xyuas Paulus txoj haujlwm thiab tom qab ntawd ua haujlwm rau Biskupic hauv Nroog Outagamie County. "Vince yuav ua raws Joe nyob ib puag ncig zoo li tus dev dev. Qhov tseem ceeb nws yuav ua txhua yam Joe xav tau. Thiab kuv xav tias (nws) kuj tau kawm los ntawm Joe. "

Burke, rau nws feem, hais tias tus kws lij choj zoo yog tus cwj pwm los ntawm kev coj ncaj ncees, thiab "Vince (Biskupic) muaj kev coj ncaj ncees."

Xyoo 1990, Paulus yeej ib qho ntawm Wisconsin thawj qhov kev txiav txim siab tua neeg. Xyoo 1992, nws yeej thawj qhov kev txiav txim siab hauv Fox Valley siv cov pov thawj DNA. 

Paulus kuj tau foob ib tug txiv neej rau kev iab liam kev sib deev rau ib tug poj niam uas tam sim no hu ua dissociative identity disorder. Thaum lub sij hawm, xyoo 1990, lub npe hu ua Ntau Yam Kev Ua Phem Txhaum Cai tau sau rau hauv cov ntawv xov xwm suav nrog Washington Post thiab Baltimore Sun. 

Tab sis tus kws txiav txim plaub tau thim qhov kev txiav txim tsuas yog rau lub lis piam tom qab sim, hais tias nws tau ua yuam kev hauv kev tiv thaiv tus kws tshaj lij tiv thaiv kev tshuaj xyuas ntawm tus neeg raug liam. Paulus tus neeg raug tsim txom-pojniam tus neeg saib xyuas kuj tau tshawb pom lub hnub qub tim khawv tau sib deev nrog tus poj niam, uas nws paub tias muaj kev puas siab puas ntsws - ib qho kev ua uas ua rau muaj qhov zoo ib yam li kev ua txhaum cai rau tus neeg raug foob. 

'Koj tau xaiv txoj cai' 

Kwv yees li kaum xyoo tom qab, Paulus yuav tshaj tawm xov xwm ntxiv - tsis yog yam uas leej twg xav tau. Zaj dab neeg ntawd pib nrog tus kws lij choj hauv cheeb tsam hluas hu ua EJ Jelinski.

Jelinski yog nyob rau hauv kev xyaum ntiag tug tam sim no hauv Menasha. Nws pib ua haujlwm rau Paulus hauv 2001, thaum nws tseem nyob hauv tsev kawm ntawv kev cai lij choj.

Nws piav txog Paulus li funny - thiab qee zaum, txawm zoo. Tab sis, Jelinski hais tias, "feem ntau nws siv sijhawm ua si nrog tib neeg tsuas yog rau nws qhov kev lom zem xwb. Thiab nws ua phem. Nws ua phem heev.”

EJ Jelinski yog ib tus kws lij choj pabcuam hauv nroog hauv Winnebago County uas ua haujlwm hauv Joe Paulus. Tom qab kawm txog Paulus txoj kev coj tsis ncaj hauv chaw ua haujlwm, Jelinski qhia nws rau FBI. Tom qab ntawd Paulus raug rho tawm haujlwm thiab tam sim no nyob rau hauv kev xyaum ntiag tug hauv Menasha, Wis. Jelinski tau yees duab ntawm no xyoo 2004, tib lub xyoo Paulus tau lees txim rau tsoomfwv cov nqi xiab. (Courtesy of EJ Jelinski)

Nws nco qab Christmas Hnub 2001 thaum Paulus hu nws 16 zaus. "Thiab thaum kawg, lub sijhawm 16th kuv teb," Jelinski hais. "Thiab nws hais tias, 'Kuv tsuas yog xav kom koj xav txog kuv ntawm hnub so tseem ceeb no, ha ha ha,' nyem.

Jelinski hais tias Paulus muaj nuj nqis rau ib qho zoo tshaj lwm tus: loyalty. Jelinski tau kawm txog qhov no thaum ntxov, thaum Paulus txiav txim siab mus tom qab tus kws lij choj John Daniels.

Daniels tau hais hauv email tias nws yuav tsum ua nrog tub ceev xwm nqa cov teeb meem ncaj qha rau nws vim tias lawv tsis ntseeg Paulus. Raws li Jelinski, tus kws lij choj hauv cheeb tsam tau hais kom nws cov neeg ua haujlwm tsis quav ntsej Daniels. Jelinski mus tham nrog Daniels lawm. Qhov ntawd yog thaum Paulus hem tias yuav tua Jelinski tshwj tsis yog nws qw "F- Daniels" nrov nrov hauv DA lub chaw haujlwm hauv Oshkosh. 

Thaum tus kws lij choj pab tub ntxhais hluas hauv cheeb tsam tsis kam lees, nws hais tias Paulus tau mus rau lub chaw ua haujlwm nrov nrov tshaj tawm tias "Mr. Jelinski tau xaiv kom raug rho tawm haujlwm. " Tom qab ntim nws cov khoom thiab mus rau qhov chaw nres tsheb, Jelinski tau hloov lub siab. Nws rov qab mus rau qhov chaw ua haujlwm thiab qw ib yam li Paulus tau hais rau nws - thiab nws tau txais nws txoj haujlwm rov qab. 

"Thiab 20 feeb tom qab thaum kuv tawm mus haus luam yeeb tom qab lub tsev, Joe nqis los thiab nws hais tias, 'Zoo, koj paub, koj yuav muaj kev sib cav ntau hauv koj lub neej. Thiab txhua tus uas koj yuav ntsib, koj yuav tsum txiav txim siab, qhov no puas yog lub roob uas kuv yuav tuag rau? Thiab koj tau xaiv txoj cai niaj hnub no,' "Jelinski nco qab. 

Nyiaj - tom qab ntawd tshem tawm

EJ Jelinski tau tawm tsam Winnebago County District tus kws lij choj Joe Paulus hauv kev xaiv tsa xyoo 2002 tom qab kawm txog Paulus kev coj tsis ncaj hauv chaw ua haujlwm. Thaum lub sijhawm sib tw, Jelinski tau tshaj tawm cov kab xev uas nws thiab ib tus neeg ua haujlwm sib koom ua haujlwm zais cia - tab sis raug cai - ntawm Paulus khav theeb txog kev sib deev hauv cheeb tsam tus kws lij choj lub chaw haujlwm. Tom qab xyoo ntawd, Paulus thiab Jelinski ob leeg poob hauv Republican thawj. Cov phiaj xwm kev sib tw no yog ib feem ntawm Jelinski tus kheej phau ntawv sau. (Courtesy of EJ Jelinski)

Nyob ib ncig ntawm xyoo 2000, Burke, tus kws tshaj xov xwm TV, pib hnov ​​​​lus xaiv txog kev qaug cawv tsav tsheb uas tau "pob ntseg" hauv Winnebago County lossis "yog tias koj them ib qho nyiaj, nws tau ploj mus."

Burke nco qab txog kev kawm ntawm ib tug txiv neej uas tau raug ntes rau kev qaug cawv tsav tsheb nrog ntshav cawv theem peb lossis plaub npaug ntawm txoj cai txwv - thiab qhov xwm txheej tau raug tshem tawm tsis meej. 

"Thiab txhua zaus kuv pom ib lub tsheb thauj neeg nyob ib ncig ntawm lub nroog, kuv tsuas yog mus, 'Au kuv tus Vajtswv, nws nyob ntawd," Burke hais. “Nws tau nrog nws mus. Nws tsis ua mob rau leej twg, ua Vajtswv tsaug. Tab sis nws tau qaug dej qaug cawv heev. " 

Burke tsis tuaj yeem ua pov thawj tias cov lus xaiv muaj tseeb. 

Tab sis EJ Jelinski ua tau. 

Jelinski txiav txim siab los tawm tsam Paulus hauv kev xaiv tsa xyoo 2002. Thiab nws tau pib tshawb xyuas cov lus ntxhi uas tau swirling ncig Winnebago County. Nws tau hnov ​​​​los ntawm ib tus neeg saib xyuas kev txiav txim siab uas muaj "zaj dab neeg hais txog nyiaj thiab kev tshem tawm."

Cov lus ntawd - "nyiaj thiab raug tshem tawm" - xa Jelinski, nws cov npoj yaig, thiab lawv cov phooj ywg, tub ceev xwm, khawb los ntawm Paulus cov ntaub ntawv keeb kwm. 

Ib tug qauv tshwm sim. Ib tug neeg tau txais tus nqi qis dua hauv kev thov lossis qee zaum cov nqi raug tshem tawm tag nrho ntawm kev ua haujlwm. Tom qab rooj plaub raug kaw, cov ntaub ntawv ploj lawm. Thiab cov neeg raug foob tau sawv cev los ntawm tib tus kws lij choj - Mitch Schierland.

'Hinky' rooj plaub ua rau raug nqi

Jelinski, nws cov npoj yaig thiab nws tus phooj ywg tau pom 22 qhov "hinky" thiab teeb tsa txog kev tsim cov ntaub ntawv uas ploj lawm los ntawm kev xaj cov ntawv teev lus los ntawm cov neeg sau xov xwm hauv tsev hais plaub. Jelinski xav tias Schierland tau them nyiaj ntsuab los ntawm nws cov neeg siv khoom rau Paulus hauv kev sib pauv rau kev sib hlub. 

Nws hloov tawm, nws hais yog lawm, "uas yog kev xiab," Jelinski hais. "Kev nplua nuj thiab kev noj nyiaj txiag." 

Jelinski thiab nws cov neeg tshawb nrhiav tau tshaj tawm lawv qhov kev tshawb pom rau FBI thaum Lub Ib Hlis 2002. Jelinski tau tshaj tawm nws qhov kev xaiv tsa thaum lub Plaub Hlis 2002. Paulus tau ntiab nws thiab nws cov phooj ywg ua haujlwm rau lub Tsib Hlis. 

Thaum Lub Xya Hli, lawv tau tso cov kab xev uas lawv tau zais - tab sis raug cai - ua los ntawm Paulus khav theeb txog kev sib deev hauv cheeb tsam tus kws lij choj lub chaw haujlwm. Lub lim tiam tom qab, Paulus thiab Jelinski ob leeg poob hauv Republican thawj.

Ib zaj dab neeg ntawm Appleton Post-Crescent los ntawm Lub Yim Hli 3, 2004 qhia tias yav dhau los Winnebago County District Tus Kws Lij Choj Joe Paulus tau ua raws li cov neeg sau xov xwm thaum tuaj txog ntawm US District Court hauv Green Bay, Wis., thaum Lub Yim Hli 2. Paulus raug txiav txim plaub xyoos. thiab 10 lub hlis nyob rau hauv tsev lojcuj rau kev noj $48,000 nyob rau hauv xiab los txo lossis tshem tawm rooj plaub thiab rau kev zam se. (Appleton Post-Crescent ntawm Newspapers.com)

Tom qab 14 xyoo ua tus kws lij choj hauv cheeb tsam, Paulus txoj kev kav tau xaus. 

Xyoo 2004, nws raug foob. Paulus pleaded guilty nyob rau hauv tsoomfwv lub tsev hais plaub hauv Green Bay kom xa daim ntawv them se tsis raug thiab raug nqi ze li $ 50,000. Thiab nws poob nws daim ntawv tso cai Wisconsin txoj cai lij choj. Paulus tau ua haujlwm rau XNUMX xyoo hauv tsoomfwv tsev lojcuj, suav nrog ob xyoos ntawm lub xeev raug foob kev ua tsis ncaj ncees nyob rau hauv lub chaw ua hauj lwm pej xeem thiab cuam tshuam kev ncaj ncees.

Qhov tshwm sim tsis tshua muaj rau cov kws lij choj

Nws yog qhov tsawg kawg nkaus rau tsoomfwv kom coj mus rau txim txhaum cai tawm tsam tus kws lij choj. Thiab lub tsev hais plaub pej xeem muaj nws cov kev cov nyom. Cov kws lij choj muaj peev xwm tiv thaiv tau thaum tshawb xyuas cov xwm txheej - uas yog tib qho qauv uas ua rau nws nyuaj rau kev foob tub ceev xwm rau kev ua txhaum cai.

Cov kws lij choj muaj qee yam tseem ceeb dua - qhov tseeb kev tiv thaiv - rau lawv cov kev ua nyob rau hauv lub tsev hais plaub, thiab thaum npaj ib rooj plaub rau mus sib hais. Qhov ntawd txhais tau tias "lawv muaj kev tiv thaiv tag nrho," hais tias Valena Beety, tus kws lij choj ntawm Arizona State University.

Tus Kws Lij Choj Winnebago County Tus Kws Lij Choj Joe Paulus mus dhau qhov chaw kuaj xyuas kev nyab xeeb ua ntej nws tshwm sim hauv Teb Chaws Asmeskas Tsev Hais Plaub hauv Green Bay, Wis., Plaub Hlis 26, 2004. Paulus tau lees txhaum raws li tsoomfwv daim ntawv cog lus rau kev noj nyiaj xiab nyob rau ob xyoos hauv pauv kom txo lossis tshem tawm cov teeb meem. (Sharon Cekada / The Post-Crescent ntawm AP)

Nws hais tias cov kws lij choj tau tawm mus nrog ntau ntau vim tias muaj kev tiv thaiv tsis pub dhau. 

Beety hais tias, "Cov xwm txheej uas lawv tau dag cov pov thawj, cov xwm txheej uas lawv yuam cov pov thawj, cov ntaub ntawv uas lawv tau thov cov lus pov thawj tsis tseeb, qhov uas lawv tau tuav pov hwm kev txiav txim siab," Beety hais, hais txog cov xwm txheej ntawm cov ntaub ntawv raug foob. "Thiab thaum lawv qhia cov pov thawj, lawv paub tias tub ceev xwm tau ntes tsis raug cai, lawv tau qhia cov pov thawj ntawd thaum mus sib hais."

Nws hais ntxiv, "Qhov no yog vim li cas kev hloov kho ob qho tib si kev tiv thaiv kev tiv thaiv thiab kev tiv thaiv tsim nyog yog qhov tseem ceeb, qhov kev txhawj xeeb loj tam sim no." 

Hauv lub rooj sib hais hauv tsev hais plaub tsis pub leej twg paub, Lingnofski hais rau lub Xeev Lub Tsev Haujlwm Saib Xyuas Kev Ncaj Ncees tias Paulus ib zaug hais rau nws, "Tsis txhob cia qhov tseeb mus rau hauv txoj kev txiav txim siab." Paulus qhov kev txiav txim siab ua rau cov lus nug: Nws ua li cas rau lwm qhov kev foob?

Thiab yog dab tsi, Biskupic tau kawm los ntawm Paulus li cas? 

Tom ntej no ntawm Qhib thiab kaw: Peb tshuaj xyuas cov ntaub ntawv ntawm Mark Nqe - tus txiv neej raug foob los ntawm Biskupic rau qhov kev iab liam tias muab "ntaus" rau Paulus. 

Txhawm rau mloog podcast, mus rau Qhib thiab kaw (wpr.org/openandshut) lossis nyob qhov twg koj tau txais koj cov podcasts. Lub nonprofit Wisconsin Saib koom tes nrog WPR thiab lwm yam xov xwm tshaj tawm thiab University of Wisconsin-Madison School of Journalism thiab Mass Communication. Txhua yam haujlwm tsim, luam tawm, tshaj tawm lossis tshaj tawm los ntawm Wisconsin Watch tsis tas yuav cuam tshuam txog kev xav lossis kev xav ntawm UW-Madison lossis ib qho ntawm nws cov koom tes. Zaj dab neeg no yog kev sib koom tes ntawm Wisconsin Watch thiab WPR ua ib feem ntawm Xov Xwm Tshiab, ib lub koom haum ntawm rau lub xov xwm tshaj tawm xov xwm nyob rau sab qaum teb sab hnub tuaj Wisconsin. 

Rov luam tawm peb cov ntawv dawb, hauv online lossis luam tawm, raws li daim ntawv tso cai Creative Commons.

Nrov dab neeg los ntawm Wisconsin Watch

Phoebe Petrovic / Wisconsin SaibKev Ncaj Ncees Kev Ncaj Ncees Tus Thawj Saib Xyuas Haujlwm

Phoebe Petrovic yog tus kws tshaj xov xwm tshawb fawb ntawm Wisconsin Watch thiab 2022-2023 Law & Justice Journalism Project tus khub. Raws li Daim Ntawv Ceeb Toom rau Asmeskas cov tswv cuab los ntawm 2019-2022, Petrovic tau tshaj tawm, tsim tawm, thiab tuav "Qhib thiab kaw," podcast series tau tshaj tawm nrog Wisconsin Public Radio soj ntsuam lub zog ntawm cov neeg foob. Petrovic yav dhau los ua haujlwm ntawm WPR ua Lee Ester Xov Xwm Fellow, "Qhia tawm" los ntawm Lub Chaw rau Kev Tshawb Fawb Tshaj Tawm raws li tus kws sau ntawv ua haujlwm thiab NPR's "Ntawm & Tam Sim No" ua tus tsim tawm ib ntus. Nws txoj haujlwm tau tshaj tawm thoob tebchaws rau tag nrho NPR cov xov xwm tshaj tawm xov xwm tshaj tawm. Nws kawm tiav bachelor's degree hauv Asmeskas Kev Kawm los ntawm Yale University.

Dee J. Hall / Wisconsin SaibTswj Editor

Dee J. Hall, tus tsim ntawm Wisconsin Center for Investigative Journalism, tau koom nrog cov neeg ua haujlwm ua tus tswj xyuas thaum Lub Rau Hli 2015. Nws yog lub luag haujlwm rau lub chaw haujlwm xov xwm txhua hnub. Nws tau ua haujlwm ntawm Wisconsin State Journal rau 24 xyoo ua tus editor thiab tus neeg sau xov xwm tsom mus rau cov haujlwm thiab kev tshawb nrhiav.

Ib xyoo 1982 kawm tiav ntawm Indiana University lub tsev kawm ntawv xov xwm, Hall tau tshaj tawm haujlwm ua haujlwm ntawm Lake County Star hauv Crown Point, Ind., The Gary (Ind.) Post-Tribune, The Louisville (Ky.) Times thiab St. Petersburg (Fla. .) Sijhawm. Ua ntej nws rov qab mus rau nws lub nroog Madison hauv xyoo 1990, nws yog tus neeg sau xov xwm rau yim xyoo ntawm Arizona Republic cov ntawv xov xwm hauv Phoenix, uas nws tau hais txog tsoomfwv hauv nroog, tsev kawm ntawv thiab ib puag ncig. Thaum nws 35-xyoo kev sau ntawv xov xwm, Hall tau yeej ntau dua peb lub zos, xeev thiab lub teb chaws khoom plig rau nws txoj haujlwm, suav nrog xyoo 2001 State Journal kev tshawb nrhiav uas tau nthuav tawm $ 4 lab-xyoo-laus lub tshuab zais cia ua haujlwm los ntawm Wisconsin cov thawj coj tsim cai lij choj.